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Chamaedorea arenbergiana

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I have not heard much about this palm and was wondering if anyone had info/pictures. In particular, could it be hardy to my area if given some protection.

Fordoche, LA

USDA zone 8b

National Arbor Day zone 9

AHS zone 9

Sunset zone 28

Gulf Coast climate with long hot and humid growing season, but short winters are cold and wet with several frosts. Typical lowest temp of between 22F-26F each winter with around a dozen or so nights below freezing.

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Just seedlings here, but there are some pictures on the PACSOA site.

Yes I have 2 C. arenbergiana. They have a robust trunk 1-1.5" diameter and lovely BIG leaves. I will take some shots and send them

Very desirable small palm. Quite cool tolerant.

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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Here is my C arenbergiana on the left of the first pic and the male inflorescense.

It's an easy grow needing shade and moist conditions.

Best regards

Tyrone

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Just seedlings here, but there are some pictures on the PACSOA site.

Yes I have 2 C. arenbergiana. They have a robust trunk 1-1.5" diameter and lovely BIG leaves. I will take some shots and send them

Very desirable small palm. Quite cool tolerant.

4-5 years old grown in Melbourne from 2 seedlings sent to me by Jason Kamipalms in WA. The leaves are paper thin This palm probably wont like Santa Ana winds much unless really protected, but survived our really hot days without a mark. These palms have not seen much sun at all. I will put them in winter sun until I plant them.

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chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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Just seedlings here, but there are some pictures on the PACSOA site.

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Oh cute. Don't they look just like metallica! But then I suppose all Chamaedorea seedlings look the same huh

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

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Just seedlings here, but there are some pictures on the PACSOA site.

C.arenbergiana20081126-01.jpg

Oh cute. Don't they look just like metallica! But then I suppose all Chamaedorea seedlings look the same huh

Well that just ticks me off TJ. I keep killing my seedlings, have killed about 100 already. How do you keep those alive? I can't figure those out. Do they like it wet or dry? It seems they die on me no matter what. I also think spider mites killed some. I just got another 100 seeds, so I can kill some more.

Warrior Palm Princess, Satellite Beach, Florida

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Well that just ticks me off TJ. I keep killing my seedlings, have killed about 100 already. How do you keep those alive? I can't figure those out. Do they like it wet or dry? It seems they die on me no matter what. I also think spider mites killed some. I just got another 100 seeds, so I can kill some more.

Hmmm... not really doing anything special. Sometimes they're wet, but sometimes I think I let them dry out a bit too much. They seem pretty tolerant of abuse. At what stage are they dying on you?

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
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Well that just ticks me off TJ. I keep killing my seedlings, have killed about 100 already. How do you keep those alive? I can't figure those out. Do they like it wet or dry? It seems they die on me no matter what. I also think spider mites killed some. I just got another 100 seeds, so I can kill some more.

Hmmm... not really doing anything special. Sometimes they're wet, but sometimes I think I let them dry out a bit too much. They seem pretty tolerant of abuse. At what stage are they dying on you?

Tom,

Mine are the same size as yours'(what's left of them). They've been dying in the 1leaf as well as the 2 leaf stage. Have about 10 survivors(not thriving).

Looking forward to killing the next 100......Actually, I'm going out to the GH today to spray all my seedlings.

Warrior Palm Princess, Satellite Beach, Florida

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Well that just ticks me off TJ. I keep killing my seedlings, have killed about 100 already. How do you keep those alive? I can't figure those out. Do they like it wet or dry? It seems they die on me no matter what. I also think spider mites killed some. I just got another 100 seeds, so I can kill some more.

Hmmm... not really doing anything special. Sometimes they're wet, but sometimes I think I let them dry out a bit too much. They seem pretty tolerant of abuse. At what stage are they dying on you?

Tom,

Mine are the same size as yours'(what's left of them). They've been dying in the 1leaf as well as the 2 leaf stage. Have about 10 survivors(not thriving).

Looking forward to killing the next 100......Actually, I'm going out to the GH today to spray all my seedlings.

Most of mine are at the 3-leaf stage now, and seem to be doing fine. They're in the sun room, which is cool at night and room temp to warm during the day (depending on sunlight).

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

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Great pictures everyone. Some look a little like C. micrspadix in regards to the leaves. The more I find out about this one I am thinking maybe it cannot take our winters over here.

Fordoche, LA

USDA zone 8b

National Arbor Day zone 9

AHS zone 9

Sunset zone 28

Gulf Coast climate with long hot and humid growing season, but short winters are cold and wet with several frosts. Typical lowest temp of between 22F-26F each winter with around a dozen or so nights below freezing.

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Well that just ticks me off TJ. I keep killing my seedlings, have killed about 100 already. How do you keep those alive? I can't figure those out. Do they like it wet or dry? It seems they die on me no matter what. I also think spider mites killed some. I just got another 100 seeds, so I can kill some more.

Hmmm... not really doing anything special. Sometimes they're wet, but sometimes I think I let them dry out a bit too much. They seem pretty tolerant of abuse. At what stage are they dying on you?

Tom,

Mine are the same size as yours'(what's left of them). They've been dying in the 1leaf as well as the 2 leaf stage. Have about 10 survivors(not thriving).

Looking forward to killing the next 100......Actually, I'm going out to the GH today to spray all my seedlings.

Nature Girl,

I notice you say you are going to the GH to spray your seedlings. Sorry to say this, IMO but growing in a greenhouse is fastest way to lose seedlings unless you are running a professional regime of

watering, multiple anti fungals, miticides etc. If you can grow the seedlings in a warm position in dappled shade outdoors, I think you may do better [ look out for slugs] . I have grown many many Chamedorea from 1 leaf stage in the open with few losses, apart from the rat plague which killed off lots of my chamaedoreas.

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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Thanks for the input, but it's not a real GH, climate controlled or anything. Just a shade house I use to germinate and store seedling until they are ready to pot to 1gal size. Otherwise, the squirrels wreak havoc on them.

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Warrior Palm Princess, Satellite Beach, Florida

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Thanks for the input, but it's not a real GH, climate controlled or anything. Just a shade house I use to germinate and store seedling until they are ready to pot to 1gal size. Otherwise, the squirrels wreak havoc on them.

Nature Girl

Looks as though that shade house has good ventilation, so we need to establish why you are losing seedlings

Do you use community pots, or individual small pots ? What is the mix, how often do water ?

Run us through it

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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Thanks for the input, but it's not a real GH, climate controlled or anything. Just a shade house I use to germinate and store seedling until they are ready to pot to 1gal size. Otherwise, the squirrels wreak havoc on them.

Nice big palm to the right of the shade house there! Is that a Washie? (I know nowt about palms,many look the same to me!)

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

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